The rose bred by Harkness in 1978 has like her namesake contrasting opinions from people :” in that It’s simply shocking to find out that Judy Garland is barely offered in commerce. It has so many strong attributes and accolades. The fragrance should be listed as “strong”. It’s fresh like a freesia, and unlike any other Rose I have. I would call it Cashmere Bouquet soap fragrance. (Not fruity, not myrrh, not rose). foliage is extremely healthy, the flowers last for many days on the plant, the buds open lemon yellow, and as they twist open, they become sun kissed as Double Delight does, except this one has a multitude of color hues from gold, cantaloupe, tangerine, and an intense tomato red at the base petals.
Does exceptionally well with simply feeding good quality compost, food (tea) and regular weeding.”
“Helpmefind roses 🥀 user)
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Don't be shocked by its lack of distribution. Once the patent goes off, there is little push to keep a variety in commerce. There has to be room to introduce more patented varieties or there is lost profit and rare is the business which doesn't adhere to the current "the only reason for business is to profit the share holders" mantra. Having grow (n) Judy Garland for years in Southern California, I found it to be a prickly monster whose flowers smelled good and quickly sunburned into a nasty color. I had it when it was a new introduction and hoped to love it. I didn't, so it went to a new home after several years in the garden. But, "location, location, location" is the key and that wasn't it. Kim Rupert replied to the helpmefind user. He is like Greg Lowery a hero for me. Greg did a great effort to make old roses widespread, and many old varieties have been saved by oblivion thanks to his epic effort.
Kim Rupert is another hero of mine, he is an innovative rose breeder which has been using, unusual species and varieties in his breeding line. Both of them are heroes, fighting the globalised market, promoting what is different from mainstream. Following a line of crazy genius in that part of California, with Paul Barden, Ralph Moore, and the unknown Gustav Eisen but I will speak about this line of pioneers in another post( some have been already been described in previous posts.
Kim points out the problem of the patent of roses, which make one variety rentable till it expieries. This explains why so many good varieties are no longer on the market even though they are really good. With David Austin roses this commercial strategy it is more evident. David Austin roses are not plants and a commercial product but a dream. David Austin marketing strategy is to sell a dream and poetry. So people get quite emotionally attached to those roses, evoking Shakespearean plays etc. So they get quite frustrated to not find them anymore on the David Austin’ s catalogue. The new varieties are sold as improvements, but it is a mere commercial strategy.
This is a common strategy among commercial hybridisers, to enjoy the money deriving from the patent, and then discarding the variety as soon as the patent expires, since it is more rentable to have a new variety than to renew the patent.
We can realiste that both the rose and the actual Judy suffered from popularity. The rose suffered from a decline of popularity whereas the Diva, just the pain, and the various addictions.
Judy suffered a great deal, and many gay men, could empathise and mirror Judy s struggles, and her dramatic figure and the somewhat grotesque and hysterical attitude, due to sheer injustice and discrimination.
Friend of Dorothy, was an innuendo to say gay when it was dangerous to say that aloud.
Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz, made Judy a celebrity.
The rainbow flag, was apparently (but it has not been proved yet) was inspired by the film ( the song somewhere over the rainbow is a gay classic ), and Dorothy was eager to accept strange people ( queer s etymology means strange)and the character of the lion had a very camp demeanor, sometimes leaning towards the cliché. The rose has almost all the colours of the rainbow, and it was chosen for that reason.
Apart from the queer and freak aspect of most of the characters of the film which is a good material for Drags, which we love. Gays recognise the issue of province towns, like Kansas, where everything is black and white, whereas Oz is a world full of colours and magic, like the big cities which attracts gay men, dreaming of a place with less discrimination.
Rivera states that the Stonewall movement,starts as a mourning reunion after Judy Gardland s funeral, which ended up in the first riot which turned into a real revolution for gay rights. For me to come out of the closet has not been easy,hearing bad things about homosexuals in my family, since I was a child.
My feminine aspects were supposed to be limited as possible. But I grew up in a quite opening environment, so it was not a real deal after all. But the rights for gay men in this country are far from being stable, and the political situation is far from being safe, and the new rights are far from being accepted.
Internal homophobia is widespread among gays were effeminate gays are considered the reason why there is homophobia.
To look like a straight man, and ‘normal is the rule. More than often on apps, man to man is the rule and no fems (feminine ) is the normality. The gay world has lost all his revolutionary aspect of contrasting the heterosexual mainstream, and it has been included and became a mere capitalist trap. Heterosexual normality became the new aspiration of gay men, wanting to transform those patriarchal idea in a pink hue. Hence no bridge between gays, women and other minorities. The revolutionary ideas of stonewall, are gone, but they need to be revisited.
Transvestites were the one which started all this and the balance between the masculine and the feminine is what made gays leaders in the arts and in spritituality. Homophobia, inner homophobia needs to be thought. Roses can be a way.
This post was inspired by the bearlicious magazine online .The post is moving and very well documented of a part of history which has changed history. This Italian gay group is doing a lot to create a community, spreading culture and sociality, something which has become very rare in the gay community.
Pictures are taken from the net .
#stonewall #judygardland #gayrights
The rose bred by Harkness in 1978 has like her namesake contrasting opinions from people :” in that It’s simply shocking to find out that Judy Garland is barely offered in commerce. It has so many strong attributes and accolades. The fragrance should be listed as “strong”. It’s fresh like a freesia, and unlike any other Rose I have. I would call it Cashmere Bouquet soap fragrance. (Not fruity, not myrrh, not rose). foliage is extremely healthy, the flowers last for many days on the plant, the buds open lemon yellow, and as they twist open, they become sun kissed as Double Delight does, except this one has a multitude of color hues from gold, cantaloupe, tangerine, and an intense tomato red at the base petals.
Does exceptionally well with simply feeding good quality compost, food (tea) and regular weeding.”
“Helpmefind roses 🥀 user)
Non
Don't be shocked by its lack of distribution. Once the patent goes off, there is little push to keep a variety in commerce. There has to be room to introduce more patented varieties or there is lost profit and rare is the business which doesn't adhere to the current "the only reason for business is to profit the share holders" mantra. Having grow (n) Judy Garland for years in Southern California, I found it to be a prickly monster whose flowers smelled good and quickly sunburned into a nasty color. I had it when it was a new introduction and hoped to love it. I didn't, so it went to a new home after several years in the garden. But, "location, location, location" is the key and that wasn't it. Kim Rupert replied to the helpmefind user. He is like Greg Lowery a hero for me. Greg did a great effort to make old roses widespread, and many old varieties have been saved by oblivion thanks to his epic effort.
Kim Rupert is another hero of mine, he is an innovative rose breeder which has been using, unusual species and varieties in his breeding line. Both of them are heroes, fighting the globalised market, promoting what is different from mainstream. Following a line of crazy genius in that part of California, with Paul Barden, Ralph Moore, and the unknown Gustav Eisen but I will speak about this line of pioneers in another post( some have been already been described in previous posts. 
Kim points out the problem of the patent of roses, which make one variety rentable till it expieries. This explains why so many good varieties are no longer on the market even though they are really good. With David Austin roses this commercial strategy it is more evident. David Austin roses are not plants and a commercial product but a dream. David Austin marketing strategy is to sell a dream and poetry. So people get quite emotionally attached to those roses, evoking Shakespearean plays etc. So they get quite frustrated to not find them anymore on the David Austin’ s catalogue. The new varieties are sold as improvements, but it is a mere commercial strategy.
This is a common strategy among commercial hybridisers, to enjoy the money deriving from the patent, and then discarding the variety as soon as the patent expires, since it is more rentable to have a new variety than to renew the patent.
We can realiste that both the rose and the actual Judy suffered from popularity. The rose suffered from a decline of popularity whereas the Diva, just the pain, and the various addictions.
Judy suffered a great deal, and many gay men, could empathise and mirror Judy s struggles, and her dramatic figure and the somewhat grotesque and hysterical attitude, due to sheer injustice and discrimination.
Friend of Dorothy, was an innuendo to say gay when it was dangerous to say that aloud.
Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz, made Judy a celebrity.
The rainbow flag, was apparently (but it has not been proved yet) was inspired by the film ( the song somewhere over the rainbow is a gay classic ), and Dorothy was eager to accept strange people ( queer s etymology means strange)and the character of the lion had a very camp demeanor, sometimes leaning towards the cliché. The rose has almost all the colours of the rainbow, and it was chosen for that reason.
Apart from the queer and freak aspect of most of the characters of the film which is a good material for Drags, which we love. Gays recognise the issue of province towns, like Kansas, where everything is black and white, whereas Oz is a world full of colours and magic, like the big cities which attracts gay men, dreaming of a place with less discrimination.
Rivera states that the Stonewall movement,starts as a mourning reunion after Judy Gardland s funeral, which ended up in the first riot which turned into a real revolution for gay rights. For me to come out of the closet has not been easy,hearing bad things about homosexuals in my family, since I was a child.
My feminine aspects were supposed to be limited as possible. But I grew up in a quite opening environment, so it was not a real deal after all. But the rights for gay men in this country are far from being stable, and the political situation is far from being safe, and the new rights are far from being accepted.
Internal homophobia is widespread among gays were effeminate gays are considered the reason why there is homophobia.
To look like a straight man, and ‘normal is the rule. More than often on apps, man to man is the rule and no fems (feminine ) is the normality. The gay world has lost all his revolutionary aspect of contrasting the heterosexual mainstream, and it has been included and became a mere capitalist trap. Heterosexual normality became the new aspiration of gay men, wanting to transform those patriarchal idea in a pink hue. Hence no bridge between gays, women and other minorities. The revolutionary ideas of stonewall, are gone, but they need to be revisited.
Transvestites were the one which started all this and the balance between the masculine and the feminine is what made gays leaders in the arts and in spritituality. Homophobia, inner homophobia needs to be thought. Roses can be a way.
This post was inspired by the bearlicious magazine online .The post is moving and very well documented of a part of history which has changed history. This Italian gay group is doing a lot to create a community, spreading culture and sociality, something which has become very rare in the gay community.
Pictures are taken from the net .
#stonewall #judygardland #gayrights
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